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[Oostende] Gamesday's Xmas carnage - WH40k Event
Logan Grimnar Offline
#1 Posted : 08 December 2012 21:09:20(UTC)
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vrijdag 28dec12 organiseert de club een gamesday om het jaar goed af te sluiten! de deuren zijn vanaf 14.00hr open

en is er geen betere manier om het jaar af te sluiten met een good old bloody carnageBigGrin

details van het verloop van Xmas carnage zullen volgen en is afhankelijk van de aantal deelnemers maar wat je zeker al nodig hebt:


1st round: Pit fight – there can be only one

This is the unique opportunity to see who the über character is in the 40K universe, stats alone won't help you. It will also depend on the most cunning, tactical and cheesy’est player arround but off course also on the dicesWink

Players: 8+

You’ll need:
- 0-1 HQ model
- Special/named character are allowed
- NO bodyguard / retinue / shield drones/ etc….
- <300ptn
- May be mounted / flying / jump / disc / bike / jetbike etc…
- NO transports, so leave your monoliths, battle barges, landraiders, etc… home


Pit-fight uses the 6thEd 40k rules with following special rules and exceptions:

Shooting into close combat
o Shooting into a close combat is allowed!
o Declare a target and roll a D6
o On a 4+ you target is hit
o On a 1,2 or 3 the other model is hit
o Use the randomize rule from the rule book if more than 2models are engaged in combat
o Re-rolls may be taken as the rulebook describes
o Template/blast weapons are allowed but hits all the models fully and/or partial under the template at full effect

Fighting Close combat
o The lord benefits of all abilities when he declares a charge! even if he charges more than one model, (so yes they receive the charge bonus for charging multiple models)
o In multiple combats the character may allocate his attacks in any way he wishes

We hate cowards special rule
The leader is a legend within the ranks of his army and so bears al the responsibilities that comes with this status, he always has to prove himself in battle, fighting with great fierce and conviction, proving that he’s really worthy of the loyalty of his subordinates

If your leader didn’t wound or kill a least one other character during the pit fight he may NOT lead his army into battle during the next round! That’s the price one must pay for being a coward by hiding under a rock! His deputy takes command

Choose another HQ to lead the army, if you don’t have a second HQ choose a squad leader or veteran, he gains the stats of the HQ but retains his own wargear.


Deployment:

- 4’ by 4’ arena deployment

- Each player roll 2D6, highest roller may deploy his model first anywhere on the edge of the arena, then the 2nd highest and so on

- Each model must be placed a least 24” of another model until all characters are on the table

First turn
- Each player puts an unique dice into a bag
- A “virgin hand” will then pick one dice out of the back to determinate who gets 1st turn, 2nd turn, 3rd turn and so on
- After all players have played put all dices, except the first dice picked, back into the bag
- Start all over again,return the first dice in the back after “the hand” picked the new first dice.

Game objective:
There can be only one! Last model standing is the winner of the pit fight and can claim he’s the über character in the 40k universe
He may choose an enemy player to be the captain of the opposing team for the next round
He may choose the first battle brother for the team event
He may have a Leffe (or something else) offered by me


round2- totale carnage - Pact of Blood

This mission uses the rules as described on page364 of the rulebook

Points
:
2000pts + your Lord of the Pit fight

Teams:
see pit fight

Objectives:
basic will be D3+2 (but more players mean more Obj)

Force:
-standard organization chart with +1 slot (1-3HQ, 2-7Tr, 0-4EL, 0-4FA, 0-4HS)
-Super heavy’s may be used but count as 2HS slots
-NO allies

simpel isn'tBigGrin

so, who's in

1. Bert
2. Ureel
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#2 Posted : 09 December 2012 12:02:37(UTC)
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Ik moet werken Crying

Ziet der wel tof uit Bert!
Fire within, Fire without

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#3 Posted : 09 December 2012 12:08:15(UTC)

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Tot hoelaat zou het ongeveer duren? Want ik zou om 19u moeten vertrekken richting een feestje
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#4 Posted : 09 December 2012 20:48:25(UTC)
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Ureel;8544 wrote:
Tot hoelaat zou het ongeveer duren? Want ik zou om 19u moeten vertrekken richting een feestje


begint het feestje stipt om 1900Hr? dan kan je altijd wat later komen héFlapper

ruwe schatting:

1ste deel max 1uur
2de deel ongeveer 4Uur

maar alles hangt af van de aantal deelnemers en hun legers (horde legers hebben de tendens om langer te spelen)

het scenerio en/of punten hangen dus hier vanaf hé

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Ureel Offline
#5 Posted : 09 December 2012 21:40:18(UTC)

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Neen, maar het is wel in affligem.

Count me in.
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#6 Posted : 10 December 2012 00:29:37(UTC)
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Ureel;8550 wrote:
Neen, maar het is wel in affligem.

Counter me in.


ThumpUp desnoods kan je ook enkel deelnemen aan het eerste deel hé, als je in tijdsnood zou gerakenSmile

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#7 Posted : 10 December 2012 09:59:57(UTC)
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Goh, ik wil wel hoor, maar zit jammergenoeg in keulen tussen kerst en nieuw.
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#8 Posted : 10 December 2012 10:29:19(UTC)
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Zoals al gezegd: ik ga op skireis zijn. Ik hoop dat er wat volk kan afkomen!

Bert, als je het niet meer ziet zitten om alles te organiseren onder een bepaald deelnemersaantal, mag je het gerust laten weten. Alle begrip dat je niet alle moeite moet doen om maar met vb 4 te spelen. Dan kun je beter een apocalypse ofzo doen wsl!
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#9 Posted : 10 December 2012 10:56:14(UTC)
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jerre;8555 wrote:
Zoals al gezegd: ik ga op skireis zijn. Ik hoop dat er wat volk kan afkomen!

Bert, als je het niet meer ziet zitten om alles te organiseren onder een bepaald deelnemersaantal, mag je het gerust laten weten. Alle begrip dat je niet alle moeite moet doen om maar met vb 4 te spelen. Dan kun je beter een apocalypse ofzo doen wsl!


WILCO...maar feit is wel dat er al een paar sterspelers afwezig zullen zijnGlare

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#10 Posted : 10 December 2012 18:21:32(UTC)
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Ik ga het zo vlug mogelijk aan de madam vragen wat de planning is van die kerstweek, tis nogal hectisch met redelijk veel gaan eten hier en op visite gaan daar. Als ik kan en mag of mag en kan dan wil ik er wel graag bij zijn, i'll let you know asap!
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#11 Posted : 10 December 2012 19:11:51(UTC)
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IK kom zeker af. Smile


Wel een vraagje omtrent de regels (gewoon voor de zekerheid ;) ):

Een standaard FOC dezer dagen voor 2000p+ bestaat uit 2 primary detachements (4-12 Troops, 0-6 HS, 0-6 Elite, ...), en elk van deze primary detachments geeft je toegang tot 1 fortification en 1 ally detachment. De ally detachments vallen dus duidelijk weg ('No allies allowed'), maar als je zegt 'standaard FOC +1 op alles', dan veronderstel ik dat je bedoelt {0-4 HS, 0-4 Elite, ...} en niet {0-7 HS, ...)? Kwestie dat ik niet voor verrassingen kom te staan. BigGrin En dus ook slechts 1 fortification toegelaten?


Anyway, ik doe dus zeker mee. Ik weet wel niet of ik aan 2500p geraak zonder allies, maar dat kijk ik nog eens na. Cool

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#13 Posted : 10 December 2012 20:49:01(UTC)

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Ik zal met marines moeten spelen want met m'n Sisters of Battle geraak ik niet eens in de buurt van 2500 punten... Blink

Niet dat dat erg is natuurlijk! Zal zelfs al een paar dingen moeten thuislaten... BigGrin

Jotie ben zeer zeker dat het 0-4 van elke soort choice is.
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#12 Posted : 10 December 2012 23:14:09(UTC)
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Brynjolf Irontooth;8570 wrote:
IK kom zeker af. Smile


Wel een vraagje omtrent de regels (gewoon voor de zekerheid ;) ):

Een standaard FOC dezer dagen voor 2000p+ bestaat uit 2 primary detachements (4-12 Troops, 0-6 HS, 0-6 Elite, ...), en elk van deze primary detachments geeft je toegang tot 1 fortification en 1 ally detachment. De ally detachments vallen dus duidelijk weg ('No allies allowed'), maar als je zegt 'standaard FOC +1 op alles', dan veronderstel ik dat je bedoelt {0-4 HS, 0-4 Elite, ...} en niet {0-7 HS, ...)? Kwestie dat ik niet voor verrassingen kom te staan. BigGrin En dus ook slechts 1 fortification toegelaten?


Anyway, ik doe dus zeker mee. Ik weet wel niet of ik aan 2500p geraak zonder allies, maar dat kijk ik nog eens na. Cool

  1. Bert
  2. Ureel
  3. Jotie
  4. ...
  5. ...
  6. ...


klopt,1-3HQ, 2-7Troop,etc...BigGrin

en eigenlijk is je leger maar 2200ptn want je leader mag kost al max 300ptn...!!!

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#14 Posted : 11 December 2012 14:49:53(UTC)
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update in 1ste post!

details over de eerste rondeBigGrin

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#15 Posted : 12 December 2012 09:34:39(UTC)

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ik doe ook wel mee, die arena ziet er leuk uit.

Grtn Dimi
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#16 Posted : 12 December 2012 13:50:43(UTC)
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Ik ga ook proberen om af te komen...maar ik weet niet of het gaat lukken. Ik ga kijken om in de loop van deze week mijn definitief antwoord te geven: nay or yay...Laugh
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#17 Posted : 12 December 2012 14:19:15(UTC)

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Ah ok, het is dus echt wel de bedoeling dat je een woest character maakt... Zal eens moeten kijken wat er mogelijk is in de SM codex, want gewoonlijk speel ik met heel minieme HQs BigGrin
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#18 Posted : 12 December 2012 14:24:27(UTC)
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Ik vraag me af hoe je in godsnaam 300p spendeert aan een character.

Ik vrees al voor Daemon Princes en the like. Tongue
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#20 Posted : 12 December 2012 14:38:11(UTC)
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Grappig als je daar staat met je IG. Yarrick won't cut it :D
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#19 Posted : 12 December 2012 14:47:41(UTC)
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Brynjolf Irontooth;8597 wrote:
Ik vraag me af hoe je in godsnaam 300p spendeert aan een character.

Ik vrees al voor Daemon Princes en the like. Tongue


Wolflord+thunderwolf+runic armour+frost axe+ meltabomb+ stormshield+ saga of the bear = +/- 275ptn (geen codex bij...)

draigo = 275ptn standaard


't is max 300ptn, zelf yarrick kan winnen if he's cunning enough, if you aren't tough enough be smart enoughBigGrin


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