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Dystopian Wars 2.0 is uit!
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#1 Posted : 09 April 2014 13:34:37(UTC)
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In mei verschijnt de tweede editie van Dystopian Wars. Precies het schema dat we verwacht hadden.

Groot nieuws zijn een nieuwe 2-player boxed set (FSA vs Blazing Sun), mét nieuwe schepen die er geweldig uitzien.



Er komt ook een "luxe"-editie van het rulebook. Leren cover, 320 pagina's, full colour, enz... Ik had me verwacht aan een beetje geldklopperij, maar 30 pond ligt nog aan de goeie kant van de redelijkheid.

2.0 zal vooral inzetten op snellere gameplay, op de mogelijkheid tot grotere battles en op een duidelijker rulebook. De 2-playerset geeft aan dat er ook scenario's komen.
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#2 Posted : 09 April 2014 14:32:53(UTC)

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Ook net gelezen! Love

Ik wil de luxe editie! BigGrin
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#3 Posted : 09 April 2014 15:01:08(UTC)

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Heavy battleships in die box! I like the way that sounds...

Wegens veel teveel modellen zal ik die box niet kopen, maar het lijkt me best wel goeie value ook:

CONTENTS:

1 x 128 Page Admiral Edition Rulebook

1 x 32 Page A5 Scenario Book

3 x A4 'Punch Out' Scenery Sheets

3 x A5 Tokens and Templates Sheets

15 x Standard Game Dice - Red

2 x White Micro Dice

2 x Red Micro Dice

2 x Green Micro Dice

1 x Large Wani Forward Deployment Base


Empire of the Blazing Sun

1 x New Heavy Battleship

1 x Wani Terror Ship - Solid resin Model

1 x Wani Terror Ship – Clear resin Model

3 x New Cruisers


4 x Frigates

5 x Corvettes

5 x Tiny Flyer Tokens

1 x Tiny Flyer Token movement tray


Federated States of America

1 x New Battleship

1 x New Large Submarine

1 x New Large Submarine Submerged Base

6 x Small Submarine Tokens

3 x New Cruisers

4 x Frigates

5 x Corvettes

5 x Tiny Flyer Tokens

1 x Tiny Flyer Token movement tray

Allemaal voor £80
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#4 Posted : 09 April 2014 15:22:53(UTC)
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Hele goeie value! Ik zou wel geneigd zijn om de box aan te schaffen, mocht iemand geïnteresseerd zijn om één van de forces over te kopen.

Het is eigenlijk het recept van firestorm armada dat overgenomen is. Daar was er ook een verborgen basis met een soort "stealth" battleship.
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#5 Posted : 09 April 2014 17:07:23(UTC)
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Ik moet toegeven dat het er allemaal wel supergoed uitziet.

ben zeker en vast ook benieuwd naar de nieuwe rules.

Jerre, ik zou eventueel de FSA wel overnemen uit die box.
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#6 Posted : 09 April 2014 20:23:35(UTC)

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Op dat vlak scoren ze wel slecht op originaliteit Flapper Don't change a winning team?
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#7 Posted : 09 April 2014 20:27:55(UTC)

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Commodore rulebook via wayland kost zelfs maar £24 & de 2 speler box £55.99 Blink
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#8 Posted : 10 April 2014 09:27:46(UTC)
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Ureel;15828 wrote:
Commodore rulebook via wayland kost zelfs maar £24 & de 2 speler box £55.99 Blink


Voor diegenen die geen ingebouwde koerswisselingsmachine hebben zitten, dat is een 30EUR voor het boek en 70EUR voor de box. ;)

Misschien wel trolltrader overwegen om verzendtijd en verzendingskosten te minimaliseren.
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#9 Posted : 12 April 2014 19:36:34(UTC)
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Voor m'n Fransen: een soort gunship met turrets en een zwaar battleship! WHOOHOOW ;)



Battleship is blijkbaar de moeder van kleine duikbootjes
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#10 Posted : 13 April 2014 10:50:21(UTC)
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Die battleship is echt een ferm stuk. Een super catamaran met dikke firepower.
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#11 Posted : 13 April 2014 18:18:45(UTC)

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CoA krijgt er ook een carrier bij: (en die ziet er super uit!)



Pruisen ook (op een Blucher chassis!):



Zeer cool als je het mij vraagt, enkel de smokestacks die niet tot boven het deck uitkomen lijkt me maar raar... Mellow
Het tesla thema wordt zeker en vast doorgetrokken. Front teslacoil, tesla broadsides en rond de brug staan er 4 (of 1 360°?) speerschleuders opgesteld.

KoB krijgt er ook ééntje:

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#12 Posted : 13 April 2014 18:27:43(UTC)

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Pruisen!



Carrier: eindelijk een Pruisich schip met een beetje body! I like BigGrin
Heavy battleship: heel erg benieuwd naar de regels
Battlecruisers: niets nieuws, deze heb ik al Cool
Cruiser: herwerkte Reiver class of iets nieuws? Confused
Kleintjes zien er idem uit aan de huidige


De turrets op het Japanse heavy battleship zien er pijnlijk uit... (met ingebouwde rocket launchers?)

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#13 Posted : 14 April 2014 08:35:43(UTC)
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Die Elbe-carrier vind ik echt super. Geen tijd om een volledig nieuw ontwerp te maken? Bouw een half afgewerkte Blücher om. De keuze om de schoorstenen niet boven het flight dek te laten komen is inderdaad vreemd!

De cruiser is volgens mij gewoon een nieuw model voor de Reiver. Een aantal van de oudste modellen heeft een nieuwe cast gekregen, vb ook de KoB Ruler
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#14 Posted : 16 April 2014 19:51:53(UTC)
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Iemand al gemerkt dat er ook scenery in die doos zit:

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#15 Posted : 17 April 2014 07:22:25(UTC)

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Ja hoor BigGrin

Moest ik momenteel een nieuwe vloot willen starten had ik zeker en vast die set gekocht, maar ik zou graag me pledge een beetje gezond houden. Eerst moeten die Italianen geschilderd zijn voordat er over een nieuwe vloot kan gespeculeerd worden Laugh
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#16 Posted : 17 April 2014 09:00:16(UTC)
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er zijn geruchten dat er op een later moment andere sets (bv pruisen vs KOB) zouden uitkomen ook.
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#17 Posted : 18 April 2014 12:40:36(UTC)
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Jotie: Het gaat over geprinte scenery, ze hebben iets soortgelijk (een strand) in de amfibische landingsset gestoken.
Geen idee hoe het zal overkomen, maar het is wel leuk om de doos te openen en meteen te spelen. Korre was vroeger trouwens ook fan van karton ;D

Ureel: Dat is zeer wijs

Korre: Ik heb de indruk dat het voorlopig echt niet meer is dan dat. Wat ik wel zie gebeuren is ergens een boxed set met land/air. In 2.0 zou land iets meer gepromoot worden. Land zou ook beter werken doordat er meer streamlining is (vb de Small Tanks die Tiny worden en daardoor geen counters meer nodig hebben).
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KOB are considerably improved with the changes to their Primary Weaponry, the Linking Mechanic and their ability to Repair [a VERY important part of DW2....] meaning they are in the game for longer, with better firepower.


PE have built a very strong synergy base with their Tesla+Speerschleuders and maintain their boarding focus too. All Tesla Weaponry has the Lethal Munitions Type.....ensuring that a point of DR causes AP loss...meaning that the PE now can effectively hamstring a target before boarding to kill it with multiple attacks from various directions.


FSA have built upon their Gunnery Fleet moniker with a good array of models, but have lost their previous AP superiority on the Sea.....an FSA fleet that wishes to board heavily should look to Armoured or Air. Many cited the FSA as an overpowered fleet in 1.1, but in truth it was the spamming of certain models that caused an issue....something that has been changed in 2.0 through stat changes and Force Creation changes.


The EoBS have the mixed weaponry concept as they did before, but this time around the intent is to ensure that their models have an optimum weapon system at each range band [where the multi-system exists on a mode]. They excel at RB1+2 and have a good AP base upon which to finish targets. The Generators are a powerful part of their fleet too with generatros such as the Disruption, Fury and Sonic becoming very powerful. In short, the EoBS are a powerful synergy fleet that excels in RB1+2 [very similar to the Prussians] with an ability to work well at RB3+4 through certain tactics and fleet selections if the player chooses.


COA have built upon the changes that came out in the Euclid box, with Energy Weapons getting a place in the core rules rather than in a Fleet Guide. Particle Accelerators have been changed in their core mechanics to make it feel more like a RB1+2 'shotgun', capable of clearing small threats......[there was a serious statistical problem with the old rules....but I digress]

The Covenant have MOST their old tricks and a few new ones, but the days of the 'I'm-so-clever-I-can-teleport-a-Battleship-into-your-lines' have gone..... HOORAY!..... in replacement players can deploy a Portal that allows them to teleport whole squadrons [the size of which are dependent on the model deploying the portal]...... players should beware however......the portal is a 2-way-street.....the enemy might be able to come through too! This simple change makes the use of this technology a true tactical choice rather than a no-brainer.

Oh, and finally COA drones have changed....but that's a discussion for another time.


RoF were always hampered by the design of their models as regards their ability to link..... This has been changed in 2.0 with the change to all RoF turrets to Secondary Weapons [...yes....that means they can link with their Broadsides!...] Also, the statistically incongruous Heat Lance/Lancette has undergone an considerable overhaul, removing the DR multiplier to having a more stable AD spread and some really cool Munitions types- This means that a RoF player now has a weapon system that can damage and effect any target in the game.....AND it allows for Attachments/Specialist Group Squadrons/cheaper HL vessels.

The ROF have a high AA score as they always did but we toned it down a bit....and gave them Redoubtable AA instead - this allows us to represent their dependable AA without making their AA levels bonkers! It also allows for a mirroring with their long term enemies the KoB [with their Redoubtable Turrets] and their long term Allies, the Prussians [with their Redoubtable Teslas]


RC have had a huge change in their Ablative Armour Rule....rather than being a one-trick-pony, AB-A is now a permanent MAR. Up until a model has lost more than half AP it gains a bonus to its DR+CR equal to the value listed in the models' MAR.....after that however, it gains the Vulnerable MAR as well!.....of course, should the crafty Russian player have a few repair models nearby....this might put the model back to its improved value once more! This makes the Russians the true tanks of DW2 and a very tough nut to crack.


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#19 Posted : 04 May 2014 15:19:31(UTC)
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Allemaal leuke (en soms noodzakelijke) evoluties. Ik zie er wel naar uit.

Hopelijk blijven de zaken origineel, zoals de heat lance.
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